Trump tells Dr Phil there are 'people that control Biden' and explains what he does to fight 'dark forces' when he is lonely - then says he 'lost Oprah' who used to love his key lime pie
Donald Trump speaks about 'dark forces' he claims are arrayed against him in a new interview with Dr. Phil McGraw, then goes on to say his darkest moments involve what wife Melania reads in the press. The TV host with a degree in psychology sat for an hour with the former president, and tried to probe Trump about darkness he faces, in his first interview since a Manhattan jury convicted the former president on 34 counts in the Stormy Daniels trial.
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